Doc selling for less on Ebay?

[m***@peoplepc.com]

Could this be due to the new reprints? Fading boomers? Happenstance?

[Dave]

Post by m***@peoplepc.com
Could this be due to the new reprints? Fading boomers? Happenstance?

Not sure if DOC is selling FOR less, but there is sure less DOC for
SALE on eBay.


For a long time, you could run an item check on eBay and find about
300 DOC SAVAGE items for sale. From 1998 until about 2005, this was a
pretty constant number -- a couple of times it topped 400, every now
and then it dropped into the high 200s.

In 2006 the number of DOC SAVAGE items available on eBay started
dropping into the 200s more often. By 2007 it rarely topped 300.

I ran a check this AM, and there were 189 DOC SAVAGE items listed for
sale on eBay -- the lowest number I've seen in the nearly ten years
I've watched it.

As to the effects of new reprints on prices -- I don't really see it,
DOC paperback reprints continue their slow climb in price,and if
reprints were going to affect price, I'd think the opposite would be
true.

And there just aren't enough DOC pulps on the market (6 on eBay this
AM) to gauge any price change due to the reprints. I suspect the net
effect will be a wash -- for every fan who thinks, "Hey, I can get a
new reprint of THE GOLDEN MAN much cheaper," there'll be another who
thinks, "Now I've got the story, but I want the old paper too."

ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION: The reprints have depressed the whole eBay
DOC market, and growing DOC fandom. I actually kind of hope this is
true, because otherwise I fear that the demographics will cause pulps
to the era of Big Little Books -- a hobby of increasingly fewer
collectors and much higher prices.

dave

[m***@peoplepc.com]

Thanks for the input, Dave.
I wonder if Amazon is capturing some of the Doc market from Ebay?
Amazon is hosting more pictures now. Even some Advanced Book Exchange
dealers are posting pictures of some books, along with other book
sites.

[mt]

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Post by m***@peoplepc.com
Could this be due to the new reprints? Fading boomers? Happenstance?

Not sure if DOC is selling FOR less, but there is sure less DOC for
SALE on eBay.
For a long time, you could run an item check on eBay and find about
300 DOC SAVAGE items for sale. From 1998 until about 2005, this was a
pretty constant number -- a couple of times it topped 400, every now
and then it dropped into the high 200s.
In 2006 the number of DOC SAVAGE items available on eBay started
dropping into the 200s more often. By 2007 it rarely topped 300.
I ran a check this AM, and there were 189 DOC SAVAGE items listed for
sale on eBay -- the lowest number I've seen in the nearly ten years
I've watched it.
As to the effects of new reprints on prices -- I don't really see it,
DOC paperback reprints continue their slow climb in price,and if
reprints were going to affect price, I'd think the opposite would be
true.
And there just aren't enough DOC pulps on the market (6 on eBay this
AM) to gauge any price change due to the reprints. I suspect the net
effect will be a wash -- for every fan who thinks, "Hey, I can get a
new reprint of THE GOLDEN MAN much cheaper," there'll be another who
thinks, "Now I've got the story, but I want the old paper too."
ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION: The reprints have depressed the whole eBay
DOC market, and growing DOC fandom. I actually kind of hope this is
true, because otherwise I fear that the demographics will cause pulps
to the era of Big Little Books -- a hobby of increasingly fewer
collectors and much higher prices.
dave

Considering the rarity of fine or mint pulps of any kind circulating
including Doc Savage, the effect of the new reprints can only help the
interest and value of the originals that are out there, Im not sure the
effect on the 60's reprints now. If for only the bama covers as a
distinction on the new reprints, but I have seen alternate covers of
bama on the new ones as well. I do think the value of the 60's reprints
will drop but the overall value of the originals in vgood, fine or mint
shape will always be worth more. The new reprints are the best thing to
happen to get new blood into Doc, The Shadow, and all pulps etc.

[e***@gmail.com]

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Post by Dave

Post by m***@peoplepc.com
Could this be due to the new reprints? Fading boomers? Happenstance?

Not sure if DOC is selling FOR less, but there is sure less DOC for
SALE on eBay.
For a long time, you could run an item check on eBay and find about
300 DOC SAVAGE items for sale. From 1998 until about 2005, this was a
pretty constant number -- a couple of times it topped 400, every now
and then it dropped into the high 200s.
In 2006 the number of DOC SAVAGE items available on eBay started
dropping into the 200s more often. By 2007 it rarely topped 300.
I ran a check this AM, and there were 189 DOC SAVAGE items listed for
sale on eBay -- the lowest number I've seen in the nearly ten years
I've watched it.
As to the effects of new reprints on prices -- I don't really see it,
DOC paperback reprints continue their slow climb in price,and if
reprints were going to affect price, I'd think the opposite would be
true.
And there just aren't enough DOC pulps on the market (6 on eBay this
AM) to gauge any price change due to the reprints. I suspect the net
effect will be a wash -- for every fan who thinks, "Hey, I can get a
new reprint of THE GOLDEN MAN much cheaper," there'll be another who
thinks, "Now I've got the story, but I want the old paper too."
ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION: The reprints have depressed the whole eBay
DOC market, and growing DOC fandom. I actually kind of hope this is
true, because otherwise I fear that the demographics will cause pulps
to the era of Big Little Books -- a hobby of increasingly fewer
collectors and much higher prices.
dave

Considering the rarity of fine or mint pulps of any kind circulating
including Doc Savage, the effect of the new reprints can only help the
interest and value of the originals that are out there, Im not sure the
effect on the 60's reprints now. If for only the bama covers as a
distinction on the new reprints, but I have seen alternate covers of
bama on the new ones as well. I do think the value of the 60's reprints
will drop but the overall value of the originals in vgood, fine or mint
shape will always be worth more. The new reprints are the best thing to
happen to get new blood into Doc, The Shadow, and all pulps etc.

Yeah, exactly... it's difficult to get new buyers excited about Doc
merchandise without any current Doc material on the market. This is,
I think, a direct result of the astoundingly bad management of the
entire franchise by Conde Nast. Where's the Doc Savage movie? Or
even a new Doc Savage comic book? When I was growing up, there were
pulp paperback reprints, a Marvel comic, a black-and-white comic
magazine, the lame '76 movie, etc. As kids, we barely had any
conception that Doc was reprint material or that he was an old kitschy
character, we thought "hey, he's everywhere, he was created for us."
The problem I have with the new pulp reprints is that there's NO WAY
anyone under 30 is going to get into them. Far from creating a new
market of Doc fans, they're just servicing the existing 40+ year old
fans.

At a certain point, there's just not enough new blood in the fan club
to justify any new merchandise. Conde Nast has long since passed that
point... they need to put their money where their property is and
spend some cash reviving Doc Savage before he goes the way of G8 or
Black Mask.

-Eric

[Captain Marvel]

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At a certain point, there's just not enough new blood in the fan club
to justify any new merchandise. Conde Nast has long since passed that
point... they need to put their money where their property is and
spend some cash reviving Doc Savage before he goes the way of G8 or
Black Mask.
-Eric

Conde Nast has taken some steps towards returning Doc Savage to the
public eye. Remember back in December of 2006 when a rumor hit of a
Sam Raimi movie featuring multiple Street & Smith pulp characters [IGN
was the first up with the rumor]? A week after the rumor hit, it was
confirmed that Sam Raimi did have the rights to The Shadow and was
working [with Sony] on a new film.

Well, the same day the rumor hit [but before the movie was confirmed]
Harry Knowles of AICN commented on the rumor. And relayed a piece of
information that I have not seen mentioned anywhere since.

His full comments can be read here: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30905

But perhaps the most interesting thing were his fourth paragraph and
the last paragraph.

QUOTE ========================================================

...

In the last year or so - I've heard that Raimi has been taking
meetings with various directors to discuss a possible DOC SAVAGE film.
But closer to home, I've heard that Raimi had found a writer for his
THE SHADOW movie, but that no commitments were in hand, as of yet.

...

Like I said. I know for a fact that THE SHADOW and DOC SAVAGE are
separate projects that were being developed as separate projects at
least 4 months ago. I'll continue to knock on Raimi's door to get to
the truth, but at this point the only one that knows for sure, is his
Shadow...

END QUOTE ====================================================


I feel certain that Raimi has continued work on the Doc Savage movie.
Hopefully it goes into full production soon.